Premier – Commission of Inquiry

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Cassy O'Connor MLC
September 24, 2024

Ms O’CONNOR – Thank you, Chair.  In regard to ED5s, premier, how many employment directive 5s relating to the commission of inquiry have been resolved, how many remain outstanding?  And then I’ll have a follow-up to that information.

Mr ROCKLIFF – Sure.  Now, I believe we’ve tabled – yes, we have tabled –

CHAIR – Tabled it yesterday and today.

Ms O’CONNOR – I’ve probably –

Mr ROCKLIFF – Routine disclosure.

Ms O’CONNOR – I’ve definitely missed that.

Ms WEBB – It’s in that pack that was sent round to us all.

Mr ROCKLIFF – Yes.  I think I mentioned it today.

Ms O’CONNOR – The numbers though, relating to it?

Ms WEBB – Yes.

Mr ROCKLIFF – Yes.

Ms WEBB – It takes a lot of time to track through it though, so perhaps the straightforward answer could be provided to that question.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – So through the premier.  Apologies, Ms O’Connor, was that the number of ED5 processes –

Ms O’CONNOR – Relating to the commission of inquiry which have been resolved.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – Resolved.  Through the premier, and apologies, because this is a very complex area.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – If I deal first with alleged perpetrators, which is mentioned on page 5 of the routine disclosure document.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – So in terms of final action taken to date we have terminated due to breach determined four employees identified.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – Sanction of termination recommended but employee resigned prior to finalisation:  one employee.  Breach determined and sanction other than termination applied and employee returned to duty:  one employee.  And we have resigned or contract expired prior to ED5 process completing and the employee advised that the ED5 process will commence if an individual seeks re-employment in the TSS:  four employees.

Ms O’CONNOR – Four.  Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – We have four employees subject to active ED5 processes underway.

Ms O’CONNOR – Related to the CoI?

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – All of these are related to the CoI.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.  Yes.  Okay.  Four.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – And these relate to the 22 alleged perpetrators disclosure table.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – And we have no further action based on assessment or ED5 determination, two employees.  If we then go to –

Ms WEBB – Can I just confirm that that’s unchanged from the last update in August, that particular table in the routine disclosure material?  So that table is the same figures from August.  I’m looking at the two documents in front of me.

Mr ROCKLIFF – That’s the one we tabled in the committee, all the information.

Ms WEBB – Or the one that just I took off your website this morning, which I presume is the same.

Mr ROCKLIFF – It’s unchanged.  My advice is it’s unchanged.

Ms WEBB – So that’s an unchanged table from August.

Mr ROCKLIFF – Yes.

Ms O’CONNOR – And does that have the unresolved matters relating to the commission of inquiry in it?

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – Through the premier.

Mr ROCKLIFF – Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – I’m not sure in terms of what the unresolved matters are.  But we also have a table that relate to alleged non-perpetrators.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – So I can take you through those ED5.

Ms O’CONNOR – Is that the same table as has been tabled?

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – Yes.  Yes.

Ms O’CONNOR – Because I’m fine to go back and check the documents.  Thank you.  I thought there might be an update.

Ms WEBB – That one does have changes, though, compared to August.

Ms O’CONNOR – Yes.  Okay.  Well, I think maybe the committee should hear it.

Ms WEBB – If you could just point to the changes.  You could just point to the changes, potentially.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – Yes.  It’s just the question referred to ED5 matters, and there’s several categories about – unrelating to ED5, which is why I was sorry going through those.

Ms WEBB – Separate.  My apologies.  My apologies.

Ms O’CONNOR – Don’t be sorry.

Ms MORGAN-WICKS – So in relation to the alleged non-perpetrators we have sanction of termination recommended but employee resigned:  one employee.  Breach determined and sanction other than termination applied and employee resigned:  one employee.  Resigned or contract expired prior to the ED5 process completing, and again the employee advised the ED5 process will recommence or will commence if the individual seeks re-employment:  one employee.  Active ED5 process underway:  four employees.  And no further action based on assessment or ED5 determination:  nineteen employees.

Ms O’CONNOR – Thank you.

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