Dr WOODRUFF - Thank you, minister. Recommendation 12.23 page 50, makes it clear that access to phone or video calls, visits and temporary leave to children and young people in Ashley, shouldn't be denied on the basis of a child's behaviour. Have you taken immediate steps to prohibit this from ever happening?
Mr JAENSCH - I will defer to my department for any update they have.
Dr WOODRUFF - No, nothing's happened yet? No. Ms Burgess, can I take it on notice?
Ms BURGESS - As routine practice, young people would be able to have access to phone calls, usually outside of the usual process of the day, so post-4.00 p.m. unless there was an emergency -
Dr WOODRUFF - To be clear, I am talking about the fact that in the commission of inquiry, these rights were being denied on the basis of a child's behaviour as a form of punishment, essentially. They recommended that they cease immediately. Has this happened?
Mr JAENSCH - The reference was to previous behaviour management systems where there may have been -
Dr WOODRUFF - That is right.
Mr JAENSCH - a treatment of these things as privileges rather than as rights.
Dr WOODRUFF - Exactly. Has that changed and that is now prohibited as a form of behaviour management?
Mr JAENSCH - I would expect not.
Dr WOODRUFF - That it hasn't changed?
Mr JAENSCH - No, I would expect that no longer continues as part of behaviour management. That would be my expectation.
Dr WOODRUFF - Can you find out and tell us by tomorrow, please, to confirm that is the case.
Mr JAENSCH - I will get further advice on that.
