Mr BAYLEY - Returning to the forest product question, I am interested in the contractual arrangements there. Do you have specific contractual arrangements with harvest and haulage contractors, or businesses in your context, or are they purchasing a per truck per load basis as if I would if I had a load of logs on the back of my ute? How does this happen and can you give us a bit more detail about, if there are, regular customers?
Mr DWYER - I have just had an answer in relation to whether we have an account with STT or not, and we don't. So, TT Line is not a freight company, we just forward the freight. We have many customers who may have contracts with them but we don't actually have contracts. What happens is, we take bookings on a daily basis until we are totally full in relation to the vessel. There's no contract with that company to have space on the ships.
Mr BAYLEY - Is there a contract with Australian Sustainable Hardwoods? Can you tell me? Can you seek an answer on that?
Mr DWYER - I hazard a guess, no, because they are not a freighter either so they would use another company to actually freight their services.
Mr BAYLEY - If I understand it correctly from a TT Line business perspective in some ways you are tenure blind is the wrong word but sort of 'freight blind', 'product blind' and it just goes on volume and length or the other sort of metrics by which you calculate freight.
Mr DWYER - We certainly do know what's on some of our freight. Again, as I've said, I have taken that on notice and we will come back in relation to the commodity that we are shipping but we don't have contracts directly with those companies.
Mr BAYLEY - Do you expect this to continue long-term? Have you had conversations with some of these contractors -
Mr DWYER - Not that I'm aware of, no.
Mr BAYLEY - No? Thank you.
Mr BAYLEY - A couple more questions on the forestry products issue. You said you know the volume that's going through the ships from Tasmania to the mainland.
Mr DWYER - TEU numbers, 20-foot equivalent numbers?
Mr BAYLEY - Can you distinguish between them between different types of forestry products, native forest products or plantation products.
Mr DWYER - No we wouldn't be able to.
Mr BAYLEY - Are you able to provide the total figure?
Mr DWYER - Yes, we will come back with that commodity for you.
Mr BAYLEY - Do you receive any assistance from that from federal or state government or it is purely contractual with the carter?
Mr DWYER - That's right.
Mr BAYLEY - In terms of biosecurity, one thing raised with us is that some of these vehicles travelling to Victoria are fully loaded. We do not know what they are doing over there and then travelling back again. Do have any biosecurity arrangements in place or is that simply for Biosecurity Tas at the Geelong and Devonport end?
Mr DWYER - Coming back into Tasmania, it is Biosecurity Tasmania which checks all trailers. That is a biosecurity question.
Mr BAYLEY - Have you had any concerns raised with the TT-Line about that?
Mr DWYER - In relation to?
Mr BAYLEY - In relation to biosecurity of the wash down of some of these trucks and so forth.
Mr DWYER - I haven't heard any issues with those. I'm sure there are wash downs in the freight area of Biosecurity Tasmania. In our yards in Geelong and Devonport there are wash-down areas. Our people will see if there is mud or dirt on a vehicle that would be washed down. If not, it would come off in Devonport and go to the wash area under the view of biosecurity to make sure they are washed down. You see that a fair bit with caravans as an example.
Mr BAYLEY - Are you able to provide us with a list of customers that are freighting forestry products from Tasmania to Victoria?
Mr GRAINGER - I'm not sure we're allowed to do that.
Mr DWYER - Can I take that on notice.
